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Re: Something that baffles me, regarding Michigan (2.00 / 3)

It's selective memory, or ignoring the entirety of what she said. She fully explained why she did not take her name off the ballot. Google it. She seems to be the only one who was thinking about the implications of not having any Democrats have their names on the ballot (there were a few actually) when it came to the general elections. Very prescient. We're seeing the outrage of Florida and Michigan voters now. Why don't you answer this question. Why would over 2 million people go to the polls and vote in Florida and Michigan if they thought their votes would not count?
Change Before It's Too Late
by Jeter on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:26:55 PM EST

Re: Something that baffles me, regarding Michigan (none / 0)

That's not the issue. The issue is that she said it wouldn't count for anything.

As far as people voting, many surely didn't but the primary races weren't the only things being voted on.

BTW, Al Gore took his name off the MI ballot in 2000 and still won the state in the GE so Clinton's statement is nonsense anyway.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:36:47 PM EST
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Re: Something that baffles me, regarding Michigan (none / 0)

Thanks for your reply. Is there any reason why you didn't answer my question?


by vermontprog on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:40:29 PM EST
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Re: Something that baffles me, regarding Michigan (2.00 / 1)

I live in MI.  There's no outrage about that here in my circles, and I talk politics a lot with people.

You know why?  Because it was clear to us at the time that that election, as Hillary said, "doesn't count for anything."

Why did people go to the polls?  Any number of reasons.  My mother went because I encouraged her to go.  That doesn't mean that either of us thought that our votes actually counted for determining the nominee.  Some people might have thought they would count, but those people weren't paying attention.

Don't claim to speak for MI voters.  That patronizing attitude has become very tiresome.


Check out McCain.
by you like it on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:43:06 PM EST
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Re: Something that baffles me, regarding Michigan (none / 0)

Also an MI voter, also haven't heard any outrage, and I've asked. McCain is never going to triumph here and anyone who says he surely will does not know anything about MI. We won't suffer his bullshit here any more than we did Bush's.


John McCain hates terrorists, except the ones that hate women. Those are just swell.
by terra on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:45:43 PM EST
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Re: Something that baffles me, regarding Michigan (none / 0)

I agree with you that McCain won't win MI, although I think that he  does have a chance here.  That's why we have to work so hard from now till November to make sure that we prevail!


Check out McCain.
by you like it on Sat May 17, 2008 at 02:52:14 PM EST
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Re: Something that baffles me, regarding Michigan (none / 0)

OK, for completeness, here are her actual words (the best quality audio I could find, though the still images are not particularly flattering).

That's... fairly explicit on her view regarding Michigan. New Hampshire Public Radio, 10/11/07.


by TCQuad on Sat May 17, 2008 at 03:02:58 PM EST
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Yeah...she said we know it won't count for anything...


Obama supporter who is damn glad Hillary Clinton is a Democrat!!
by hootie4170 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 03:21:14 PM EST
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