Racism, Division & the 2008 Clinton Campaign

This has been one of the saddest things to watch. A person who was respected, admired, and supported by so many progressive Americans becoming so desperate for power that she resorts to the politics of division and blatant race-baiting to try to get that power.

     "The Clinton campaign has intentionally inflamed these simmering antagonisms: black versus Hispanic, black versus white, black versus older women, white collar versus blue collar, young versus old, under-educated versus college grad...For the dull-witted, Clinton's surrogates are sent out spell it out in capital letters. Obama used cocaine (Bob Johnson). Obama's middle name is "Hussein" (Bob Kerrey).  Obama is a master of "shuck and jive" (Andrew Cuomo). Obama is another Jesse Jackson (Bill Clinton)." ~ Jeffrey St. Clair

This campaign has brought out the worst of the sexism and racism that we all know still haunts America. the sexism has come from Obama supporters and, especially, the media. The racism has come from Clinton supporters, the media, and unfortunately the Clinton campaign and Clinton herself. Thus, the idea that Obama will pick Hillary Clinton as veep is one of the most ridiculous things i've ever read. the first ticket headed by an African American will certainly NOT have a race-baiter in the veep slot.

Clinton as veep?
can you say HELL NO?
i can.
and Obama can.
yes he can.

Update [2008-5-23 13:36:33 by catchaz]: in response to comments: yes, Clinton has lost. so what's the point of this diary? to shame those seemingly shameless Dems who are willing to embrace or excuse racism to win elections. The people complaining and writing about the disgusting sexism in the media nd from Obama supporters are RIGHT. and their words are important because what the fuck good are Dems who don't fight sexism? the people writing and complaining about the racism that came directly from the Clinton campaign are RIGHT. and their words are important because what the fuck good are Dems who don't fight racism?

Jeffrey St. Clair has written an unfortunately right-on article called "The Gothic Politics of Hillary Clinton: Courting Jim Crow" at CounterPunch. the whole article is here:
http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair05212 008.html

some excerpts:

"Adhering to Penn's fatal calculus, Clinton has endeavored to re-segregate the Democratic Party electorate into demographic segments and then pitted them against each other. The Clinton campaign has intentionally inflamed these simmering antagonisms: black versus Hispanic, black versus white, black versus older women, white collar versus blue collar, young versus old, under-educated versus college grad."

snip

"What was once coded is now explicit. Clinton openly talks about her appeal among "working, hard working, white voters." The implication here is that blacks are lazy, shiftless and on the welfare dole and that perhaps only half of their votes should count. But shouldn't someone remind her that her husband dismantled welfare? Perhaps her former mentor Marian Wright Edelman should make the call."

snip

"For the dull-witted, Clinton's surrogates are sent out spell it out in capital letters. Obama used cocaine (Bob Johnson). Obama's middle name is "Hussein" (Bob Kerrey).  Obama is a master of "shuck and jive" (Andrew Cuomo). Obama is another Jesse Jackson (Bill Clinton). Obama's story is a fairy tale (ditto). And, most recently, Geraldine Ferraro told the Los Angeles Times that Obama is a "sexist" (most black men are, right?) and she won't vote for him if he is the nominee.

To sum up: Obama is a drug abuser, a huckster, a secret Muslim, a con artist and a misogynist. And that's without dragging Jeremiah Wright into the scenario."

snip

"If Obama survives the primaries and falls to McCain in November, Hillary will attempt to remake the Democratic Party in her own image. It will replay of the origin of the conservative DLC, designed by her husband and Lieberman to keep the party from falling into the hands of Jesse Jackson and the Rainbow Coalition. This time the C will stand for Clinton."

yep, that's what Clinton is promising us: a return to good old days of racist conservative democrats and Lieberman-style warmongering.

Hillary Clinton has run the most divisive campaign in recent memory for the Democratic nomination. she has completely adopted the race-baiting hate-mongering of Karl Rove & Ko. With her dishonest and race-baiting campaign she has lost all claim to be any kind of progressive. and any Democrats who have joined in this race-baiting or excused or condoned it should be ashamed of themselves.

Clinton may now have only 2 words left on her mind: vice president. i have 2 better ones: primary challenger. we need to find a real progressive to fill the seat of the junior senator from New York.



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Nah. (2.00 / 2)

I think both sides have put their respective feet in their mouths many times during this campaign.

I DON'T think the Clintons are racists and Obama is sexist.  There's plenty of evidence to the contrary, even though they've all made poor choices in what they've said.  We're all a little too sensitive during this campaign, I'm afraid.


No way. No how. No McCain.
by freedom78 on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:17:14 PM EST

You're not helping Sen. Obama. n/t (2.00 / 2)


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:17:41 PM EST

Re: (2.00 / 1)

I really don't think that this helps.  Both sides think that the other is to blame, and it doesn't do anything to beat McCain.  People could argue about this for months (they already have) and accomplish nothing.


by rfahey22 on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:18:45 PM EST

Very simple, true, to the point, and essential (none / 0)

But old habit die harder for some


by lombard on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:23:54 PM EST
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Re: Very simple, true, to the point, and essential (none / 0)

It's like we just entered a time warp back to February.


by rfahey22 on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:24:39 PM EST
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Very simple, true, to the point, and essential (none / 0)

But old habit die harder for some


by lombard on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:24:12 PM EST
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I disagree with virtually every word of your diary (2.00 / 3)

But I'm not even going to go there.

I'm following the rule, if you can't say something nice, say nothing.

What is your point exactly? I'm assuming you are an Obama supporter? Haven't you heard the news? Apparently your guy won?


"Life is too short, time is too precious, and the stakes are too high to dwell on what might have been." Hillary Rodham Clinton - June 7, 2008
by twinmom on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:19:32 PM EST

Those damn sore winners... (2.00 / 1)

Just can't shut them up.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:22:07 PM EST
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we should ALL be angry about racism & sexism (1.00 / 1)

"What is your point exactly? I'm assuming you are an Obama supporter?Haven't you heard the news? Apparently your guy won?"

my point is that Clinton ran a openly racist campaign, which all Dems should chastise her for. (as they should chastise all Dems who made sexist remarks.) and that because of this she is completely undeserving of a veep slot.

"I'm following the rule, if you can't say something nice, say nothing."

very nice of you. that is an admirable stance on your part.
but personally, i cannot put party unity ahead of fighting racism (or sexism). i am basically a single-issue Democrat. that issue is bigotry. i will continue to write about sexism and racism not only from ReThugs but especially when they disgrace OUR party.  


the time to rise has been engaged.
by catchaz on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:47:31 PM EST
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Re (2.00 / 1)

sorry, catchaz, you can say it all you want, but Hillary did not run a openly racist campaign


by colebiancardi on Fri May 23, 2008 at 03:19:36 PM EST
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issues more important than any one candidate (none / 0)

there you go again...

sorry, but literally MILLIONS of African Americans disagree with you. (which is why her support dropped from 60% to less than 10%.) my guess is they have a more realistic idea of racism than you do.

seriously, the issue of racism is so much more important than any one candidate. why would anyone put loyalty to a candidate over one of the most important issues facing our country?  


the time to rise has been engaged.
by catchaz on Fri May 23, 2008 at 03:41:36 PM EST
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Racism, Division & the 2008 Clinton Campaign (2.00 / 1)

I'm not convinced of Clinton's games, I think she's a victim of circumstance because she is a known hard-working competitor facing an African-American in the race. Just like Obama gets tarred with the misogynist label for running against Hillary. It isn't that the accusations are completely without merit, it's just that if you're at a shooting gallery long enough, you're eventually going to shoot one of the cardboard innocent victims.

I think Obama is far more angered by her comments that he is unqualified for the office than any purported racial attack.


If you're being chased by an angry bull and then you notice you're also being chased by a swarm of bees, it doesn't really change things. Just keep on running.
by vcalzone on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:21:36 PM EST

Agreed. that inference was the most fatal (none / 0)

She did say emphatically that he was qualified during one of the debates but her failure to do so earlier was very damaging.  I can understand her saying McCain was qualified because she had said that a long time ago in an interview and she apparently likes him from various reports.

He also did have a remark that caused considerable damage and never should have been made: expressing confidence that he would get her supporters in the GE but she couldn't be confident of getting his.  I only mention it because it caused considerable bad feelings on this side.


by lombard on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:31:02 PM EST
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Re: Agreed. that inference was the most fatal (2.00 / 1)

It was very badly worded. It is entirely possible that Clinton would/will not get a fair chunk of voters that Obama will get. But it was an absolute mistake to say that he could get her voters. In reality, he didn't have to say that to get his point across, and rather than projecting strength, it seemed a bit arrogant. I like to think that's something he learned from.


If you're being chased by an angry bull and then you notice you're also being chased by a swarm of bees, it doesn't really change things. Just keep on running.
by vcalzone on Fri May 23, 2008 at 02:29:13 PM EST
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Re: Agreed. that inference was the most fatal (none / 0)

Sorry for the "Obama will get" remark. I'm showing my own personal preference there.


If you're being chased by an angry bull and then you notice you're also being chased by a swarm of bees, it doesn't really change things. Just keep on running.
by vcalzone on Fri May 23, 2008 at 02:30:38 PM EST
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I hope so, too (none / 0)

The remark was interpreted by some of us as almost a dare not to vote for him.


by lombard on Fri May 23, 2008 at 02:57:44 PM EST
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I just called out a Clinton supporter for this. (2.00 / 2)

And now I'm doing the same to you.

The candidates have moved past this issue and it's time for us to do the same.  You are only contributing to the divisions that Barack and Hillary are trying to put behind us.


Linfar's co-blogger opposing John McCain
by psychodrew on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:23:51 PM EST

It is a heated campaign... (2.00 / 1)

....these candidates have given up 18 months of their lives in order to serve the best interest of average Americans.  Have both candidates done/said things that were wrong?  Sure.  However, I fully believe both of them are truly GREAT Democrats and want to see this nation move forward to a more perfect union.  


Obama supporter who is damn glad Hillary Clinton is a Democrat!!
by hootie4170 on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:25:20 PM EST

Oh Please.... (2.00 / 1)

Excuse me it's Obama with 2 years in the senate who was desperate for power. The Billy Shaheen remarks were perfectly legit in that a candidate's prior drug use is bound to come up. So what about Bob Kerrey, that is so inconsequential.  How about the media loving Obama highlight reel that's been going on from day one?


by handsomegent on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:27:17 PM EST

Re: Oh Please.... (2.00 / 2)

WEll if the media loves him so much, that will help in the GE, won't it?

Also- you're right.  A candidate who admits past drug use can NEVER get elected president.  Just can't happen.

Unless you don't inhale?


John McCain wants to stay in Iraq.
by ihaveseenenough on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:33:28 PM EST
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"just ignore racism" (none / 0)

yes, Clinton has lost. so what's the point of this diary? to shame thsoe seemingly shameless Dems who are willing to embrace or excuse racism to win elections.

"We're all a little too sensitive during this campaign, I'm afraid."

i disagree. the people complaining and writing about the disgusting sexism in the media nd from Obama supporters are RIGHT. and their words are important because what the fuck good are Dems who don't fight sexism? the people writing and complaining about the racism that came directly from the Clinton campaign are RIGHT. and their words are important because what the fuck good are Dems who don't fight racism?


the time to rise has been engaged.
by catchaz on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:33:30 PM EST

Re: "just ignore racism" (2.00 / 2)

Show me ONE instance of a racist comment coming from Clinton.


"If we can't live together... we're going to die alone."
by VAAlex on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:45:27 PM EST
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tell the truth (none / 0)

"Show me ONE instance of a racist comment coming from Clinton."

sorry, but don't expect me to play along with your "willful ignorance." i KNOW that anyone with the time to visit political sites has the time to figure out what race-baiting is. so if you tell me you can't find a single instance of a racist comment i think you are lying. and thus no matter what i say you'll still deny it is racism.


the time to rise has been engaged.
by catchaz on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:52:22 PM EST
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Re: tell the truth (none / 0)

In other words, you can't. Alright then.


"If we can't live together... we're going to die alone."
by VAAlex on Fri May 23, 2008 at 02:00:47 PM EST
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more lies (none / 0)

no "other words" needed, except to support your lies. YOU can name an instance, you KNOW this is true.  

i'll repeat, if you CLAIM you haven't seen any racism from Clinton, i think you are lying, either to me or to yourself. or worse, you agree with the racism, and therefore don't see it as racism. either way, very dishonest and unDemocratic behavior on your part.


the time to rise has been engaged.
by catchaz on Fri May 23, 2008 at 02:18:19 PM EST
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oh PLEASE (2.00 / 2)

Oh give me a break. Again with the 'Clintons are racist' crap. Give it a rest already. Nevermind all the years both Clintons have spent supporting the African American community, nevermind, all the African American politicians they have supported, nevermind all the African American supporters they both have. Yeah, because the media and some Obama hacks say the Clintons are racist, it must be so. Clearly so. :: rolls eyes ::


"If we can't live together... we're going to die alone."
by VAAlex on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:44:23 PM EST

nevermind (1.00 / 1)

"Nevermind all the years both Clintons have spent supporting the African American community, nevermind, all the African American politicians they have supported, nevermind all the African American supporters they both have."

nevermind all the times the Clintons have spent whipping up bigotry to get votes ("he's not a Muslim, as far as i know"),
nevermind all African American politicians who USED to support clinton but now say they can't because of the racist campaign,
nevermind that her African American support dropped from about 60% to 8% after her racist campaign...

sorry,  but i'll listen to what African Americans say is racism, not supporters of the most divisive candidate in recent Democratic history say is not racist. and the verdict from them is perfectly clear.


the time to rise has been engaged.
by catchaz on Fri May 23, 2008 at 01:57:41 PM EST
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Re: nevermind (2.00 / 1)

Glad you bend to political pressure so easily. Like I said, just because someone screams racism, it doesn't make it so. But feel free to wage your baseless campaign; there's plenty out there who will follow.


"If we can't live together... we're going to die alone."
by VAAlex on Fri May 23, 2008 at 02:02:04 PM EST
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just because BLACK people claim racism (none / 0)

you left that out. i don't respond when "someone screams racism", i respond when i hear Black people complain about racism, or when i see racism practiced with MY OWN EYES.

and you see it too, if you'd be honest, you just don't seem to care.


the time to rise has been engaged.
by catchaz on Fri May 23, 2008 at 02:20:39 PM EST
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Re: Racism, Division & (1.50 / 2)

You obviously need an epiphany if you think that all Clinton supporters will just forget about your vitriol and that of many of Obama's supporters come November. DOn't be surprised when the "agent of change" loses in a rout.


by Ignored and Disgusted on Fri May 23, 2008 at 02:17:42 PM EST

will you forget this? (none / 0)

John McCain: why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? because Janet Reno is her father.

is there anyone out there so stupid they will vote for John McCain because i was mad at Clinton's racism?
no, there's not.
but unfortunately there are some dishonest Dems who'll vote McCain because they are racists but will lie and say it was because of Obama's supporters. but no one is really that stupid. and you know it.


the time to rise has been engaged.
by catchaz on Fri May 23, 2008 at 02:24:00 PM EST
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Re: will you forget this? (none / 0)

Why do Obama supporters continue to fail to see that their ranting claiming Clinton is a racist does not help gather votes to their side?

Not voting for your candidate is not an automatic vote for McCain, either.  Some folks are going to be so disgusted by McCain's far too conservative ideology and Obama's work to denigrate everything Clinton that they will simply leave the POTUS spot blank, having no candidate who actually deserves their vote.


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Fri May 23, 2008 at 03:30:40 PM EST
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because we care about racism? (1.00 / 1)

"Why do Obama supporters continue to fail to see that their ranting claiming Clinton is a racist does not help gather votes to their side?"

you are wrong. it only fails to get RACIST voters on their side. it helps with those who are angry and bitter about racism in America, and angry at those who practice it, take advantage of it, or dismiss it's harm.

Obama didn't denigrate Clinton, Clinton herself did that by stooping to racist tactics to get votes.


the time to rise has been engaged.
by catchaz on Fri May 23, 2008 at 03:45:08 PM EST
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Re: because we care about racism? (1.00 / 1)

If you cared about racism, you would stop fostering it.

It appears from your comment that you have deduced that all those who do not support Obama are 'racist'. Some folks simply support another candidate because they see more experience, more tenacity and perhaps a beter grasp of the problems facing our nation at this time. That doesn't mean they are 'racist'.

Clinton never 'stooped' to 'racist tactics'.  That's something you wish to see which isn't there, but it plays into your ideology.


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Fri May 23, 2008 at 04:08:21 PM EST
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I suggest we all back up (2.00 / 1)

Let's take a deep breath.. both canidates have done some things we don't like.. but both are much better than mccain

It's time to put silly season in the rear-view mirror... neither canidate kicked a puppy or pissed in your cheerios.... let's just drop all this


by CaptainMorgan on Fri May 23, 2008 at 02:21:49 PM EST

yes, they did... (none / 0)

rec'd for attempt at party unity.

but...
"neither candidate kicked a puppy or pissed in your cheerios"

actually, race-baiting is FAR worse than any of those things. it may not be important to Clinton supporters, but it is crucial to the future of this party.


the time to rise has been engaged.
by catchaz on Fri May 23, 2008 at 02:28:06 PM EST
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Re: yes, they did... (2.00 / 1)

Hey man... I'm a big Obama supporter (and he's my senator).... but this is just not helpful

Let's save the recriminations for a time far in the future when everyone has calmed down


by CaptainMorgan on Fri May 23, 2008 at 02:30:42 PM EST
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Nov 2007 in South Carolina (none / 0)

Michelle Obama tells a crowd of people:  "When will black folks wake up and realize they have a black man running for President."

NOW WHO'S RACIST?


by nikkid on Fri May 23, 2008 at 03:43:05 PM EST

more nikkid nonsense (none / 0)

there is nothing wrong with Black people voting for a Black man, or women voting for a woman. BOTH groups are seriously underrepresented in political office and need more representation.  


the time to rise has been engaged.
by catchaz on Fri May 23, 2008 at 03:48:39 PM EST
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